‘I don't’ believe you'; Charlamagne the God rejects Ramaswamy's DOGE exit claim, predicts Musk will ‘crash and burn it’

Charlamagne the God had a heated conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy over his abrupt departure from Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

Published on: Jan 29, 2025, 18:19:35 IST

By Shweta Kukreti

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Charlamagne the God had a heated conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy over his abrupt departure from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), in which he prophesied that Elon Musk will “crash and burn” it.

Charlamagne the God rejected Ramaswamy's assertion and even said some harsher words for DOGE and its head Musk (X)

This comes as Ramaswamy, 39, left the new agency DOGE, which he was supposed to co-lead with Musk under Donald Trump's administration. The former presidential contender has now decided to run for governor of Ohio in 2026.

During Ramaswamy's appearance on Charlamagne on The Breakfast Club on Tuesday morning, the host asked, “What happened with DOGE? Did you get pushed out? Did you get fired?”

The DOGE that Elon desired, according to Ramaswamy, had a “slightly different vision from where we started to where we landed.”

He attempted to explain that Musk preferred a “technology-first approach,” while he wanted to eliminate the bloated administrative bureaucracy.

He further claimed that the duo arrived at a decision mutually and he has been committed to the path of likely running for Ohio governor for a long time.

When Ramaswamy mentioned that he shares good relationship with Musk, Charlamagne asked him a sharp question: “Do you think you were pushed out of DOGE because Trump rolled back the DEI initiatives?”

The biotech entrepreneur stressed that the two had a “different vision on an approach,” adding that “there’s no right or wrong answer”.

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Charlamagne tha God rejects Ramaswamy remarks about DOGE exit

The radio broadcaster rejected Ramaswamy's assertion and even said some harsher words for DOGE and its head Musk. “I hear you, Vivek. I don't believe you. I think you either got pushed out or you know that it's going to implode.”

“I think that you know Elon is gon' crash and burn it, and you're a smart guy, and you said, 'You know what, let me get out of Dodge and go do my governor Ohio thing',” he added.

Ramaswamy denied his claims, insisting that “We're all on good terms.”

Refusing to speak for anybody else, he said that they were supportive of his desire to run for the seat of Ohio Governor.

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Shweta Kukreti
Shweta Kukreti has over 8 years of experience in covering Indian and world politics. She joined the Hindustan Times in 2024 and is primarily assigned to the US desk. She currently works as Deputy Chief Content Producer and reports on a wide range of topics, including US politics, immigration issues (especially H-1B visa) and major global events. Shweta strongly emphasizes team operations, which encompasses monitoring news, delegating tasks, editing, developing comprehensive coverage strategies, and crafting engaging, and data-informed narratives. She received the Digi Star Award at the Hindustan Times within a year of joining for her broad coverage of US politics. In 2025, she earned both a promotion and a redesignation, a significant achievement recognising her contributions and the strong value she brings to the team. She has previously worked with the Indian Express, HTDS, ANI and Republic World. Seniors in all the media organisations recognised her work. Regarding education, she earned a BA (Hons.) in Political Science and a master's degree from Delhi University, and she pursued a PG Diploma in English Journalism from the Indian Institution of Mass Communication (IIMC). She also holds a diploma in Women's Empowerment and Development from IGNOU University and a French certification course from Alliance Française de Delhi. If not working, you can find her exploring the hills and engaging in adventurous activities in Rishikesh and Himachal Pradesh. She loves to play badminton, volleyball, and chess, and spend time with her friends and family. She also enjoys spiritual activities.Read More

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